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It's invasive

We are cheating a bit here with putting By Force in the mix and the same is true for Vandalblast, but they are two of the most effective artifact removals for Red and technically could still count as spot removal as per our definition

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They agreed that his findings were unimpeachable

If were not playing in a tournament, we dont need to be tournament legal. They also insisted on playing for ante, so I did the only logical thing I could do I played with seven or eight Channels in my 40-card deck and just kept taking their cards until they eventually agreed to play by tournament rules